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TRANSITION FROM THE DROVE TO LADIES MILE ROAD

Ladies Mile Road

Neighbourhood:
Patcham
1933
2018

James Gray: As recently as 1930, this was just a country lane. Turning out of the Old London Road, it ran between the farm buildings of Place Farm past Mile End Cottages and straggled away over the hill. On the reverse slope were the ancient Drove Cottages and Winfield Avenue, then a private road with a gate across it to prevent ingress.

The only other building was the old drove barn. On the south side of the road above Warmdene Road, a few modern houses built in the 1920s by far seeing people who had bought land cheaply before the area was transferred from Steyning Rural Council to Brighton Corporation in 1928. This photograph looks towards the west to the old village and the London Road. The bypass road seen in the background was constructed in 1925. This photograph, and following (jgc_35_002), show the conversion of the narrow lane into the present wide road in 1933. jgc_35_001

2018: The road is now a busy thoroughfare with houses built in the 1930s on both sides. Mile End Cottages (built in the late 19th century) are still standing. Two of their three chimneys can be seen in the middle distance of the 2018 image. A similar set of steps to those in the foreground of the 1930 picture now leads to one of the 1930s houses. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

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1933
2018

James Gray: Eastwards from Old London Road to Place Farm and Mile End Cottages. This photograph, and previous (jgc_35_001), show the conversion of the narrow lane into the present wide road in 1933. jgc_35_002

2018: The only aspect of the early picture that remains the same is the wall on the northern (left) side of the road.

The road layout in the foreground has changed completely and the small house on the south side of the road in the early image would have been on the site of the small traffic island. The barn on the northern side of the road has gone but Mile End Cottages that are prominent behind the barn still stand but are obscured in the 2018 picture by the new block of flats which has been built. The houses along Ladies Mile Road were built in the 1930s. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)
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1905
2018

James Gray: In 1905, as this photograph shows, this was just a country lane, leading from Patcham village to Old Boat Corner, and thence via Coldean Lane, to Lewes. Then, as now, the cottages were known as Drove Cottages and were occupied by workers on the nearby farms. Note the old barn, on the left, now the Barn Methodist Church.

The stretch of the Drove, from here to the Downs, was also known as the Ladies Mile. jgc_35_003

2018: The image has changed beyond all recognition. In the early image The Drove is merely a country lane and in the 2018 image it is a built up suburban thoroughfare. The flint cottages remain and though they have been modernised they are broadly similar to the early ones. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

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1932 or 1933
1933
2018

James Gray: Development began after the 1914-18 War, and by the middle of the 1920s many of the houses shown to the right had been built, with long gardens fronting the ancient lane. Land was cheap then and many of these early houses still retain very long back gardens. After the incorporation of this area with Brighton in 1928, building was accelerated. This photograph was taken in 1933, the year in which the road was widened and the Ferguson estate commenced. jgc_35_004

James Gray: Early building development in Ladies Mile Road. This photograph is very similar to jgc_35_004 and probably dates from the same period, about 1932 or 1933. jgc_35_059

2018: In 1933 the photographer was standing between Highview Avenue North (on the left) and Highview Avenue South (on the right). That early image is broadly the same as the 2018 one despite the many cars there are now on the road. The houses on the north side of the road are almost untouched and remain family houses. The Drove Cottages on the southern side of the road remain standing (see jgc_35_003 and 005). (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

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1956
2018

James Gray: The scene in 1956. Patcham School, on the right, was built in 1936, partly on the site of an early bungalow, known as The Ark which is shown in the view above. At the same time Warmdene Road was completed and carried through to join the new road above the school. The change in name from Drove Road to Ladies Mile Road appears to date from 1925. jgc_35_005

2018: The two scenes are very similar. The houses and shops on the northern side of the 1956 image are still evident in the 2018 image and the road layout is identical. The flint cottages on the opposite side of the road are broadly the same. The school in the picture is currently Patcham High School. It was previously the Margaret Hardy High School for Girls but amalgamated with the boys’ Patcham Fawcett School in 1989 to become Patcham High School. Margaret Hardy was the first female mayor of Brighton in 1933-34. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

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c1910
2018

James Gray: Drove Cottages and road to Ladies Mile. jgc_35_006

2018: No comment. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

c1910
2018

James Gray: This photograph is positively dated as June 1910, when the Territorials were in camp on the brow of the hill to the left of the old Drove Road. It is likely that the one above (jgc_35_006) is about the same period. jgc_35_007

James Gray: The old Drove road in 1910 (see jgc_35_007). jgc_35_016

2018: The Drove Barn can also be seen on the far left of both jgc_35_003 and 006. The Drove is now Ladies Mile Road and a busy thoroughfare with shops and houses on either side. To the right, there are schools on the rise of the hill. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

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1967
2018

James Gray: After the Ladies Mile Estate was developed from 1931 to 1933 the old Drove Barn was restored and in 1935 became a Methodist church. It was originally a tithe barn dated 1595. These photographs (jgc_35_010, 011 and 012) were taken on 29 October 1967. The last service has been held and the church is to be demolished and replaced by a new church and youth centre. jgc_35_010

2018: The Barn Methodist church in the 1967 image was demolished in 1967 and the present church built in 1968. The architect was Peter Gibbs. The notice on the left-hand edge of the 1967 image points to a motor repair workshop. Braeside Motors first appears in local directories in 1951 and still occupies the same premises in 2018. See also jgc_35_011 and 012. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

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1967
2018

James Gray: Another view (together with jgc_35_010 and 012). jgc_35_011

2018: This shows another view of the new Patcham Methodist church built in 1968. It is taken from the path leading to Patcham High School. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

1967
2018

James Gray: Another view (together with jgc_35_010 and 011). jgc_35_012

2018: The 2018 image shows the side view of the Patcham Methodist Church built in 1968. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

1932
2018

James Gray: Building of houses on the Ferguson estate commencing in early 1932. Part of the road doubled in width but most of it is still narrow. jgc_35_017

2018: The houses on the north (left) side of Ladies Mile Road are broadly the same in both pictures – other than the addition of Velux windows in many of the homes.

The houses and shops as well as the Patcham Methodist Church were, in 1932, on what looks like rural land or allotments. Builidngs now continue along Ladies Mile Road into the distance toward the east. There are many more cars in the 2018 image and the roads and pavements are in much better order. See also jgc_35_004, 005 and 018. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)
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1966
2018

James Gray: The busy scene in 1966. Houses, shops, church and school. Even the five old cottages have been rebuilt and extended with a new roof. jgc_35_018

2018: There is very little difference between the 1966 and the 2018 images. Houses, cottages and shops are still in place and there haven’t been any substantial changes. See also jgc_35_004, 005 and 017. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

c1934
2018

James Gray: This photograph was taken when roads and pavements were made up. Some of the houses in the panorama above can be picked out in this photograph. jgc_35_020

2018: There has been little change between the taking of these two photographs.

The clock tower was built in the 1930s and remains in the same condition today and is well looked after. It appears that the houses round the clock tower have changed little but the trees have grown and therefore hide some of the houses. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)
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1933
2019

James Gray: A closer view of the Clock Tower and Barrhill Avenue. jgc_35_024

2019: See caption for jgc_35_020 above. (Photographer: Chris Nichols)

1932
2019

James Gray: Building in progress, 1932. The two completed, empty houses are the present 17-19 Ladies Mile Road. jgc_35_028

2019: These semi-detached houses in Ladies Mile Road are still clearly recognisable. No 17 was recently rebuilt with a different roof.

The sunburst gate has gone. No 19 still has some original features: the canopy over the front door and the brick quoins on right-hand side. Hard standings for cars have replaced many of the gardens in this road. (Photographer: Chris Nichols)
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1932
2019

James Gray: Building in progress, 1932, the largest house under construction being The White House, later occupied by Mr G Ferguson, the builder, and now the Nursery School. The track in the valley is now Mackie Avenue. jgc_35_029

2019: As building has extended eastward up the Ladies Mile Road (centre and left of image) it is no longer possible to see the White House from where the original photograph was taken. Mackie Avenue, in the valley to the right, is now obscured by buildings and vegetation. (Photographer: Chris Nichols)

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1954
2019

James Gray: For some 30 years after the building of the Ladies Mile estate, a vacant plot remained near the junction with Old London Road. It is seen in both photographs, here in 1954, and next (jgc_35_031) on 24 September 1961. In 1965 the houses of Brompton Close were built on this site. jgc_35_030

2019: The major change from the first photograph is the building of Brompton Close on the right. The last shop in the parade of shops is still on the far right hand side of the picture. On the left, old farm building have been replaced by a block of flats, Ladies Mile Court. The flats now obscure the much older Mile End Cottages. (Photographer: Chris Nichols)

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1961
2019

James Gray: See caption for jgc_35_030 above. jgc_35_031

2019: The major change from the first photograph is the building of Brompton Close on the right. The last shop in the parade of shops is still on the far right-hand side of the picture. T C Starnes has been trading as a hardware store in the same parade of shops since 1968.

On the left, old farm building have been replaced by a block of flats, Ladies Mile Court. The flats now obscure the much older Mile End Cottages. (Photographer: Chris Nichols)
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1961
2019

James Gray: Another view. jgc_35_033

2019: It is likely that the date 1961 of the earlier image is inaccurate. There were no buildings past Portfield Avenue on the south side of Ladies Mile Road apart from one set of semi-detached bungalows.

The white buildings on the right are therefore probably the main teaching blocks of the then unfinished Patcham Fawcett School which was to open in September 1965. I taught at this site of the school for ten years and the main teaching blocks were certainly in these places. There may have been some temporary buildings on the site during the construction of the school, but this would still date the picture to 1964 or 1965. The last bungalows on the northern (left) side of Ladies Mile Road have been extended (see jgc_35_029 for another view of these bungalows). (Photographer: Chris Nichols)
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1921
2019

James Gray: Building of the shops and flats at the junction of London Road and Ladies Mile Road, in 1933. jgc_35_043

2019: The small parade of shops in the centre of the earlier image are still called The Elms but has been extended on both sides.

The swathe of green hill to the right of the 1933 (not 1921) image has been obscured by the southernmost extension. The ornate gates on the left, which belonged to Grade II listed Wootton House, have gone as have the prominent elm trees in front of the shops. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)
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1932
2019

James Gray: Panoramic view of the estate during construction. This was taken from the Ferguson house, The White House, Ladies Mile Road, looking down on the partially built Mackie Avenue, with other roads being laid out. jgc_35_021

2019: This is impossible to recreate for several reasons: buildings, fences, cars, trees, and no access to White House (now the Dharma Primary School) visible in the bottom right-hand corner of the Google Earth photo. (Photographer: Chris Nichols)

1932
2020
2019

James Gray: View to the north of Ladies Mile Road, with The White House in the distance. In the foreground is the Drove Barn of Place Farm, later converted to a Methodist Church. jgc_35_022

2020 and 2019: For the lower part of the 1933 images, see also jgc_35_003 to 006 and jgc_35_017 and 018. I have included two images: One taken from near the junction of Highview Avenue and Ladies Mile Road looking east (2020) and one of the Methodist Church (2019). (Photographer: Chris Nichols)

1904
2018

James Gray: This photograph set me a problem, which I have failed to solve. Where was it taken? It is obviously to the south-east of Patcham Village because in the background one can see the railway cutting, and the woods above Patcham Place. I think the flat ground is the Technical School’s playing field and that the lady is standing on what is now Ladies Mile Road just where it climbs up to Warmdene Road. Period – Winter 1904. jgc_35_127

2019: The 2018 photograph is taken from the corner of Warmdene Road and Ladies Mile Road as suggested by James Gray. There are few landmarks in the 1904 image but Ladies Mile Road is now a built up and very busy thoroughfare. (Photographer: Clare Hughes)

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